About Real Money, Real Experts
Real Money, Real Experts is a personal finance podcast written and produced by AFCPE®. With an audience of financial professionals, we strive to educate and entertain with a combination of expert tips, engaging interviews, and real-life storytelling.
- Covering real stories about how professionals like you are impacting their clients.
- Offering tips from real experts on how to improve client interactions and grow your business.
AFCPE® ensures the highest integrity of the financial counseling profession by certifying, connecting, and supporting diverse professionals. Our comprehensive programs, the AFC® (Accredited Financial Counselor®) and represent the gold standard of financial counseling and coaching certifications. And our membership community offers a place to share best practices, solve similar struggles, and access tools and resources that advance your career and enable you to better serve your clients.
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Meet the Hosts
Rachael DeLeon, AFCPE® Executive Director
Rachael DeLeon, Executive Director of AFCPE®, is co-host of Real Money, Real Experts podcast. Rachael leads AFCPE, a national association for financial counselors, coaches, and educators. AFCPE certifies, supports, and connects professionals across the personal finance field who are committed to the highest standards of professionalism and passionate about helping people with their money.
Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®, FFC®
Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®, FFC® is the Owner and Coach at Living Abundantly, where she coaches families to bring future financial goals into present reality. She’s also the owner of Envision30, a foresight coaching company, where she helps leaders identify trends that are existing, emerging, and worth exploring. Brandy is currently serving as AFCPE Board President.
Recent Episodes

Real Money, Real Experts: We Were Made for This Moment: Real Stories, Real Impact
Episode 138: We Were Made for This Moment: Real Stories, Real Impact Download the transcript or watch on Youtube! Join hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter live from the AFCPE Symposium for a special episode capturing the energy, insights, and inspiration of this year’s event. In this unique format, you’ll hear directly from attendees—from financial coaches to educators to

Real Money, Real Experts: Money Talks: Healing Your Money Parts with Saundra Davis
Episode 137: Healing Your Money Parts with Saundra Davis Download the transcript or watch on Youtube! In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with the iconic Saundra Davis — master certified coach, financial well-being expert, and founder of Sage Financial Solutions — to explore the deeper layers of money, mindset, and human behavior. Saundra shares her powerful journey from

Real Money, Real Experts: Money Talks: How to Heal Your Financial Story with Erika Wasserman
Episode 136: Money Talks: How to Heal Your Financial Story with Erika Wasserman Download the Transcript or watch on Youtube! In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with Erika Wasserman, Certified Financial Therapist and author of Conversations with Your Financial Therapist: Stories and Scripts to Grow Your Financial Mindset. Erika

Real Money, Real Experts: The State of Financial Health in America with Lisa Berdie and Gary Mottola
Episode 135: The State of Financial Health in America with Lisa Berdie and Gary Mottola Download the transcript or watch on Youtube! What does financial health really look like in America today — and how can we help households thrive in an increasingly complex financial world? In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter

Real Money, Real Experts: Human Connection in a Disconnected World with Riaz Meghji
Episode 134: Human Connection in a Disconnected World with Riaz Meghji Download the transcript or watch on Youtube! What do financial counseling, professional wrestling, and Hugh Jackman all have in common? Human connection. In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with international keynote speaker, author, and broadcaster Riaz Meghji to talk about why every conversation counts. With

Real Money, Real Experts: From Trauma to Healing: Redefining Money Stories with Rahkim Sabree, AFC®
Episode 133: From Trauma to Healing: Redefining Money Stories with Rahkim Sabree, AFC® Download the transcript or watch on Youtube! In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with financial therapist, author, and AFC®, Rahkim Sabree, to explore the complex and deeply human realities of financial trauma. Rahkim breaks down the six sources of financial
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Hello! ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!! l just finished listening to Real Money/Real Experts, Pilot Episode and truly enjoyed meeting you! I was so INSPIRED and MOTIVATED that l WILL cease PROCRASTINATING and get started on reaching my next life’s goal of becoming a financial Coach/Counselor. Thank you so much for the AMAZING LEADERSHIP! Ms. Farrow
Thank you so much for listening! We hope you stick around and enjoy future episodes. Thanks for the feedback!
How can we get FICO open access- for free for our clients instead of paying the fees associated with getting the score and the needed education/coaching? Can this not be waived for financial coaching for AFCPE members?
Carol Ehlers
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712-732-5056 (home office/not open yet)
712-299-3454 (personal cell)
xehlers@iastate.edu
Carol, we are offering a webinar with the FICO team. Register now: https://bit.ly/309NsuT
Great podcasts so far. I have listened to the first three. Kudos to Rebecca and Mary.
Thank you for listening! We’d love to have you on sometime 🙂
I use the PodCruncher app for iPhone. Thoroughly enjoyed the interesting and informative first four podcasts. I’m going to listen to E5 sometime this afternoon. Terrific job so far! Thank you!
Thank you for listening!